How'd Trick or Treating Go?

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This is normal Lumpkin. Not surprised a bit, says one thing, everyone calls him on it, says another, changes his view, gets called on it again, changes again. Remember all the old posts when he got caught in something it suddenly became 'just a joke'.

[EDIT]...Wait...he did that here too
Lumpkin wrote:
Chill, that was a joke.


We end up messing peoples stuff up if they have decorations with no candy though. Two years ago we stole their pumpkins, this year we fraked the decorations up.

So they don't give you free candy so you and your friends do something that can get you arrested for theft or vandalism. For someone that claimed under your Fredbill30 account that you acted more mature than most kids your age, you just blow that out of the water.
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This is normal Lumpkin.

*fredbill30

just for example, the 2-3 day long debates on whether math was just a collection of formulas or not and a compiler is always slower than the language it was written in
Am I the only one starting to think this is a trolling thread? We tried to help him under Fredbill30, but he continually derailed threads and posted pointless things. Now he seems to jump back and forth under Lumpkin, asks a serious question once in a while, then posts pointless things, and now seems to be posting things to purposely get a rise out of us. Isn't that the very definition of troll?
Let's just say that if I thought Lumpkin/Fredbill was trying to be a troll, I would have been making snarky posts in this thread a long time ago. After all, he hasn't exactly been posting anything that's purely inflamatory, has he? I can't help but get the feeling that his vandalism confession was not meant to get an aggravated reaction out of anyone, even though such a reaction was arguably justified.

-Albatross
I don't think they are a troll either, just that they're behavior can adequately be explained by Hanlon's Razor.
I don't think Lumpkin is trolling. He's just acting his age. Which is fine... I don't have a problem with it.

Though if I were his parents and I found out about the pumpkin/decoration stuff... I'd make him go back to those houses, apologize in person, and give a small gift (like flowers or something) -- then make him do extra chores over the next couple of days to work off the price of the gift. He really ought to be shamed for that crap -- it's completely unacceptable. A lesson needs to be learned here.
Lumpkin said:
... This one dude threw something at me.


This is actually an activity my landlord introduced me to this year. Like Disch and other adults on this board I am sick of seeing teenagers putting on a football jersey or some baggy pants and acting like it's a costume so they can go trick or treating. So the idea is this, as you see them coming up to your house you throw the candy at them while shouting "You're too old to trick or treat!", "Go home!", "This is a holiday for little kids!" and so on and so forth. It's a riot, first of all you're not going to do any physical harm by pelting them with candy and second most of them will realize that it's still free candy so you get a follow up shot at them as they scramble around your front lawn to pick it up. Most kids laugh it off as good fun, one group called the cops I guess but they were then sternly reminded that it is an arrest-able offence to waste a police officers time.
I had a legit hobo/zombie costume homemade. I'd rather not go trick or treating than have a half-a**ed costume. (Which was the case last year)

Due to the poor candy income, I'm probably not going to trick or treat and just ease my way into a highschooler's party or whatever.

Though if I were his parents and I found out about the pumpkin/decoration stuff... I'd make him go back to those houses, apologize in person, and give a small gift (like flowers or something) -- then make him do extra chores over the next couple of days to work off the price of the gift. He really ought to be shamed for that crap -- it's completely unacceptable. A lesson needs to be learned here.
It's great my parents don't know of this site... maybe I should edit some of these things out...

(Shoulda thought things through.)
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maybe I should edit some of these things out...


Responsible adults own up to their mistakes.

Children try to hide them.
Probs peer pressure was more responsible for our actions.
I'd say 13 is the absolute LAST YEAR that it is acceptable to go out trick or treating (even then, if you're tall for your age I might hit you in the head with a kit-kat). You get a free pass if you're escorting younger siblings but that's about it.

It's not about the quality of the costume or the "spirit of the holiday" or any crap like that. As a parent it's sucks seeing houses close down for the night because they've run out of candy and you look around at packs of six to ten teenagers running up and down every street. You know that they are going to be at it all night but the little ones only have so much energy. They can do maybe one street, and even then they don't make it all the way down the other side. Then they pass out and Halloween is over for them.
Albatross wrote:
You seem like you have some issues.

Why's that? Because I overdid it on the alcohol? It happens occasionally. And I actually didn't drink for the rest of the weekend. Maybe where you live it's not normal for teenagers to accidentally (or intentionally) drink too much, but in England, especially when you're a student, it's the rule. I try not to, but sometimes I forget my limits.

Lumpkin wrote:
Probs peer pressure was more responsible for our actions.

Stop trying to avoid responsibility. Just accept that what you did was stupid and wrong, make a mental note not to do it again, and move on.
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Peer pressure is a bullshit excuse if you will excuse my language. I have friends that aren't take home to your parents material (for lack of a better term) who continuosly try to get me wasted, high, go to a rave or something like that and I just say no if it makes me uncomfortable.

@chrisname: definitly the norm where I live
Actually, some people, especially the ones giving out candy, and myself for that matter think 12 years old is the limit. I think some cities also have a set age range (and most, like ours, is printed in the paper with the hours and it is 12 here). At 13, you start doing stupid things like vandalism and theft and stealing candy from the younger kids. This may last from 13 til 16 or 18 depending on the children.

Lumpkin wrote:
Probs peer pressure was more responsible for our actions.

That is the excuse someone gives when they don't know how to be their own person. You want to know how many times I have done something I didn't want to because of 'peers'? Zero.
The trick with peer pressure is to be the one applying the pressure. If your friend wants to steal someone's pumpkin, then get on their case about it and convince them it's a bad idea. Don't let them convince you it's a good idea.

I know that's easier said than done. But if you have friends that are repeatedly pressuring you to do shitty stuff... then the best solution is to get friends that are less shitty.
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BHXSpector wrote:
stealing candy from the younger kids.
That's going overboard. I wouldn't let anyone do that.

DTSCode wrote:
I have friends that aren't take home to your parents material (for lack of a better term) who continuosly try to get me wasted, high, go to a rave or something like that and I just say no if it makes me uncomfortable.
I don't do drugs, and none of my friends do. That's going to far as well.

chrisname wrote:
Stop trying to avoid responsibility. Just accept that what you did was stupid and wrong, make a mental note not to do it again, and move on.
I take full responsibility for my actions.
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@ BHXSpecter: Maybe I'm a sap but I hope there is still some magic in Halloween at 13, even though they know it isn't real it's still OK to pretend at that age. Either way, one year is hardly worth debating.

I'm sorry guys but I have to laugh at this forum using Peer-pressure to tell Lumpkin how evil Peer-pressure is.
Lumpkin wrote:
That's going overboard. I wouldn't let anyone do that.

Yet you steal decorations and break things. In the eyes of the law, theft is theft and vandalism is vandalism.
Lumpkin wrote:
I take full responsibility for my actions.

No you don't. You said you broke things or took them. Then when someone reacted badly, you suddenly said it wasn't you but rather a friend. Then you wanted to edit or hide this and glad your parents didn't know about this site. That means you never told the people that you took or broke anything and you never told your parents. That is being neither responsible nor taking responsibility for your actions.

When I broke a window playing ball, I told the owner when they got home that I did it and that it was an accident. I mowed his yard for the rest of the summer to make up for him having to pay to replace it.
I'm sorry guys but I have to laugh at this forum using Peer-pressure to tell Lumpkin how evil Peer-pressure is.


Hahaha... when you put it that way. hahahaha
computergeek01 wrote:
@ BHXSpecter: Maybe I'm a sap but I hope there is still some magic in Halloween at 13, even though they know it isn't real it's still OK to pretend at that age. Either way, one year is hardly worth debating.

Getting candy is considered to be for kids, and after you turn a teenager, most people don't consider you to be a kid, but rather a young adult. The magic you refer to is eternal and depending on the person is held in them for their entire lives.
computer wrote:

I'm sorry guys but I have to laugh at this forum using Peer-pressure to tell Lumpkin how evil Peer-pressure is.
wiki wrote:
Peer pressure is influence that a peer group, observers or individual exerts that encourages others to change their attitudes, values, or behaviors to conform the group norms.

Trying to get someone to be responsible for their actions and stop hiding it isn't peer pressure, it's called getting them to grow up. Forcing someone to think programming is cool when they think it isn't is peer pressure or making someone do something just to fit in is peer pressure.
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