Do I have to learn OOP PHP for web development?
The first time I learned PHP, it was procedural, not object oriented, first time through video tutorials, the second time through a website tutorial on PHP 7. I started a few web projects (eCommerce and discussion forum) which used procedural PHP for database management. Now, searching through the web, I just now find that procedural PHP is bad for web development. Are you serious!!! Do I really have to relearn PHP, but object oriented. I don't have a problem with OOP, in fact, I already know C++, C#, Java and Python, but do I really have to relearn PHP the OOP way? This is really frustrating
All you really need to learn is HTML IMO. Everything else is sparkle and dazzle on the cake.
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One of the main reasons I hate web development is because it is very faddy...
Seriously, I feel like nobody here knows about web development. Is this forum really just "C++-centric"? I could have asked this in another forum, but I ain't got time>
| All you really need to learn is HTML IMO. Everything else is sparkle and dazzle on the cake. |
You need CSS to put those dazzling colors to life and JavaScript to make those candles move around =D
| I just now find that [non-object-oriented] PHP is bad for web development. |
Consider: is non-OO C++ bad for applications development?
(See: http://www.stroustrup.com/oopsla.pdf .)
I'm hesitant to say anything because I know precious little about PHP and its community. However, I'm inclined to dismiss that claim out-of-hand.
It is possible that parts of your program could be improved by applying object-oriented concepts. You should apply them where they yield the best solution and not elsewhere.
Many such decisions warrant a cost-benefit analysis. Things are rarely as simple as "never use X".
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| I feel like nobody here knows about web development. |
You'd be wrong. First mistake. Not everyone is as interested in talking about web development here as you are.
| Is this forum really just "C++-centric"? |
Pretty much.
| I could have asked this in another forum, but I ain't got time> |
That was your second mistake. Wasting YOUR time asking a question in a forum that is not dedicated to web development, when the smart move would have been to ask the questions in a forum that does discuss web development from the start.
I come here to discuss C/C++, not web development. If/when I want to talk about the latter I go elsewhere.
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| Seriously, I feel like nobody here knows about web development. Is this forum really just "C++-centric"? I could have asked this in another forum, but I ain't got time> |
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| I started a few web projects (eCommerce and discussion forum) which used procedural PHP for database management. Now, searching through the web, I just now find that procedural PHP is bad for web development. |
I personally find OO code easier to reacquaint myself with after I leave it for some time.
| That was your second mistake. Wasting YOUR time asking a question in a forum that is not dedicated to web development, when the smart move would have been to ask the questions in a forum that does discuss web development from the start. I come here to discuss C/C++, not web development. If/when I want to talk about the latter I go elsewhere. |
Aah...but this is the lounge, to discuss topics not related to C++ programming, is it not? I'm pretty confident that there are some that have at least, or even full knowledge of web development and PHP.
| You'd be wrong. First mistake. Not everyone is as interested in talking about web development here as you are. |
Honey, I don't talk about mainly web development. I love all aspects of software development. I even got started on Android app development and had fun with it. I also come here asking questions about C++, Video Games and ask questions all the time about C++ and whether or not my code is correct.
BTW, the last forum that was dedicated to web development, whenever I asked a question and even if there was one small mistake I made in my JavaScript, they would always be uptight and snotty about it. They were no help. I come here asking about C++, and even the slightest mistake I made, people were always helpful. I only asked this question in a desperate matter. I had nowhere else to go.
| I would have thought it would have been more prudent to ask a php question on a php or webdev forum. |
Problem is the one's I've personally been on haven't been of help. I made a couple of mistakes on my JavaScript code and they were quick to be uptight about it. At that time, I was just learning, and of course you're bound to mistakes, but the guy has the nerve and I asked it in a polite way
All I wanted to know is, is procedural programming really frowned upon? At least for PHP, I found it quick and easy to use. It is messy, but I can manage.
First you say that you think nobody here knows about Web development and then right after you ask a question about Web development.
Which one is it?
Which one is it?
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