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[helios]

A friend of mine thinks that a hard leather jacket might be enough against their teeth.

I agree. I don't see myself cutting leather with my mouth. Leather is much tougher than skin, and probably the best solution.
The only problem is that you'll look like an asshole, all covered in leather.

[jRaskell]

The only problem is that you'll look like an asshole, all covered in leather.

I don't think the zombies will mind.

[Return 0]

but humans lack that feature of snakes that allows them to unhook their lower jaw bone to swallow lambs, so zombies won't be able to)

Half the time the zombies have dislocated jaws or are missing the jaw bone lol. I agree about the chain mail or leather, my reference to armor was general. Chain mail or leather would be the way to go. And freezing would be a good option. Develop some kind of weapon similar to the flame thrower, but instead fires liquid nitrogen!! That would be fun! Have a buddy with you hammering frozen corpses with an axe, shatterring them.

The only problem is that you'll look like an asshole, all covered in leather.

lol

[chrisname]

The only problem is that you'll look like an asshole, all covered in leather.

Good point; but to be honest, I doubt many of the zombies will be looking particularly "glamorous."

Anyway, while I agree, leather is unlikely to be broken by teeth; some zombies have been shown to wield guns and knives and such. Leather doesn't do so well against those. Chainmail on the other hand, has been shown to withstand knives at least.

[helios]

There's been exactly one instance of a zombie actually using a weapon, and it had been "trained" by a scientist for several days to remember his past life.

[chrisname]

I have vague memories of a film in which zombies used improvised weapons. It might have been 28 days later (those were what I'll call the "Resident Evil" kind of zombie; that is, they're "infected").

These guys seem to have the right ideas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkNC_76FmlM

[helios]

The ones from the 28 series aren't technically zombies. They can be killed with chemical weapons and can die from hunger. Curiously, they can last three times as long as healthy people without food, and hundreds of times longer without water. Maybe they can hibernate or something.
Anyway, I don't remember the infected using any weapons. Maybe you're thinking of a scene in Resident Evil, where there's a zombie dragging an axe and walking on his broken ankle. He doesn't actually use the axe, though.

Actually, poison would be useful, but it would have to be some kind of neurotoxin.

[chrisname]

Wait, some zombies bleed, right? So then they must have circulation and therefore they must have working hearts? Then surely cutting out a zombie's heart would kill it, and so would poison

Unless it was just gravity drawing the blood it had remaining or something...

[firedraco]

AFAIK, if they can be killed by poisons, etc, you can kill them shooting them basically anywhere (just like a normal human).

[chrisname]

I always thought zombies were more resilient than humans. Surely they don't die of shock (sometimes humans die when they're in excessive amounts of pain, apparently)?

[BettyBoopTS]

oooh bright colors and shiny objects! look a butterfly!!! (Click!) yikes my screen is inundated with porn now! (hmmmm,,,)

[chrisname]

Huh?

[BettyBoopTS]

And only stupids who click on anything in bright colors without thinking get 
viruses. That's a statement I'm willing to defend.]

hee hee

[chrisname]

On the subject of viruses... this is just such a failure I can't help but question my faith in humanity.

http://i48.tinypic.com/96axdz.png

looks like this laptop has 620 trojans.

Seriously though, if anyone falls for this, I hope they die.

[helios]

Boy, they sure put some effort into it. It's a shame that the trickery becomes quite evident when you're either using a different theme or a different system altogether, or when the items displayed don't match your system at all. For example, my Windows has access to three partitions, and two physical and two virtual optical drives. Also, "My Documents" should really be "(username)'s Documents".

But I suppose the people who wouldn't notice that an explorer window has somehow appeared on the browser wouldn't notice these details, either.

[Disch]

I wouldn't go for leather armor. My cat got a hold of one of my leather belts once and chewed it up. And while he didn't puncture the belt all the way through, he did get partway through... and that's just a little cat. Human jaws are much stronger. Granted the teeth may not be as sharp, but they're still pretty sharp.

Now I don't think the average Joe is able to bite through leather.. but he would naturally restrain himself to prevent damage. I mean if you bite too hard on something, it can make your jaw hurt. Zombies wouldn't be effected by that, so they could just chomp down at full strength and grind and gnash their teeth to tear away at the leather. Sure they wouldn't get through it in one bite, but if you're surrounded by a hoard of them, they'll get through it in a few minutes.

Chain mail does sound like the way to go, here.

Although I'm curious as to how you'd keep the armor on. Zombies aren't the smartest things in the world, but surely they can find the seam and start pulling the armor off of you, especially if there are several of them around. So if you have a worst case scenario where you're unarmed in the middle of a room with a bunch of zombies, I don't think the armor would do you much good for very long.


Also, can zombies arm themselves? Would they be able to use something like bolt cutters to cut through the chain mail?

[firedraco]

Disch wrote:

So if you have a worst case scenario where you're unarmed in the middle of a room with a bunch of zombies, I don't think the armor would do you much good for very long.

I think you would be kind of ****ed like that, with or without armor...but that's just me.

Disch wrote:

Also, can zombies arm themselves? Would they be able to use something like bolt cutters to cut through the chain mail?

AFAIK, no, I've never seen zombies (fast or slow, infected, etc) ever using weapons unless they randomly hit you with stuff they have held. They won't go pick up something though.

[helios]

Zombies wouldn't be effected by that, so they could just chomp down at full strength and grind and gnash their teeth to tear away at the leather.

I thought about that. You have to remember that cats are hunters. Big cats are known to bite and kill large animals while running. Humans were also hunters at one point, but we didn't bite our prey. Incisors are just not designed to tear though flesh. If you try to bit something hard enough with all your strength, you'll just break your teeth off. Despite their name, incisors don't puncture; they cut. The distribution of force is on a line, rather than a point like a cat's teeth. Also, as a person gets older, the teeth erode and dull, becoming even less effective.

I'm not saying you won't feel the bite. Oh, it will hurt. But it don't think it'll get through.

can zombies arm themselves?

Clumsily. They retain habits of their past lives. Watch the original Dawn of the Dead (1978) (which I'm told is a satire of consumerism, although you may miss it if it's not the first zombie movie you've seen) and you can see zombies strolling through a mall, pushing shopping carts.
Anyway, if you stand around long enough to let a zombie walk up to you and cut through your armor with a bolt cutter, you deserve to get eaten.

EDIT:

AFAIK, no, I've never seen zombies (fast or slow, infected, etc) ever using weapons

Day of the Dead (1985), at around 1h 32m a zombie shoots and wounds a soldier. Later on, he (the zombie) salutes him.

[firedraco]

helios wrote:

Day of the Dead (1985), at around 1h 32m a zombie shoots and wounds a soldier. Later on, he (the zombie) salutes him.

Shows how much I know...(Still haven't seen that movie btw...;>_>)

[DrChill]

Seriously though, if anyone falls for this, I hope they die.

I actually did during my "non-computer geek" days

A friend of mine thinks that a hard leather jacket might be enough against their teeth.

But really who wants to walk around in leather?