|Cancer is a foreign entity that is destroying your body. By no definition is that killing yourself.|
|National Cancer Institute Definition of Cancer wrote:|
Cancer is a term used for diseases in which abnormal cells divide without control and are able to invade other tissues. Cancer cells can spread to other parts of the body through the blood and lymph systems.
|Cigarette Warning Over The Years wrote:|
|Caution: Cigarette Smoking May be Hazardous to Your Health (1966–1970)|
Warning: The Surgeon General Has Determined that Cigarette Smoking is Dangerous to Your Health (1970–1985)
SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: Smoking Causes Lung Cancer, Heart Disease, Emphysema, And May Complicate Pregnancy. (1985–)
SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: Quitting Smoking Now Greatly Reduces Serious Risks to Your Health. (1985–)
SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: Smoking By Pregnant Women May Result in Fetal Injury, Premature Birth, And Low Birth Weight. (1985–)
SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: Cigarette Smoke Contains Carbon Monoxide. (1985–)
|Cigar Warning Over The Years wrote:|
SURGEON GENERAL WARNING: Cigar Smoking Can Cause Cancers Of The Mouth And Throat, Even If You Do Not Inhale.
SURGEON GENERAL WARNING: Cigars Are Not A Safe Alternative To Cigarettes.
SURGEON GENERAL WARNING: Tobacco Smoke Increases The Risk Of Lung Cancer And Heart Disease, Even In Nonsmokers.
SURGEON GENERAL WARNING: Cigar Smoking Can Cause Lung Cancer And Heart Disease.
SURGEON GENERAL WARNING: Tobacco Use Increases The Risk Of Infertility, Stillbirth, And Low Birth Weight.
SURGEON GENERAL WARNING: This Product Contains/Produces Chemicals Known To The State Of California To Cause Cancer, And Birth Defects Or Other Reproductive Harm.
|Smokeless Tobacco Warnings Over The Years wrote:|
WARNING: This product can cause mouth cancer.
WARNING: This product can cause gum disease and tooth loss.
WARNING: This product is not a safe alternative to cigarettes.
WARNING: Smokeless tobacco is addictive.
|But anyway... none of that is what people mean when they say "killing yourself".|
|To me all the warnings on tobacco products say otherwise about killing yourself. So how is it that smoking is killing yourself, but just randomly getting cancer isn't killing yourself? Double standard I suppose|
|I know what they mean, the mean suicide. Problem is, the phrase 'killing yourself' isn't legally locked to suicide.|
|Your body is killing you, even without a conscious attempt to end your life, you are still killing yourself.|
|with the exception of auto immune diseases, which are your body actively attacking itself.|
|i think you have to want to die, because if i drove off a cliff because it was dark and didnt see the turn, and died, they wouldnt say i committed suicide|
|Does the definition of suicide specifically state that you have to want to die, or just that you kill yourself?|
|... I suppose you could argue that they are "killing themselves", but then you would have to say the same about every person who drives in a car because they do so knowing that it's possible for them to get killed doing so. How far do we really want to take this?|
|That's like saying if car accidents lead to death and driving leads to car accidents, then driving is killing yourself since it is a voluntary action.|
There's a line at which point these cause/effect relationships stop making practical sense. I think you've crossed it.